the skins had to bite the eagles. the giants, bears and vicings, if they all lose, they go down, if not, it comes to the skins and cowboys december 30th and the simple fact we're talking play-offs is remarkable and given this is one month ago and talk of evaluating for the future, of course. and credit mike shanahan and his debt and espn's power rankings have the time team 8th -- 8th in the nfl. and he said he knew the turnaround would take some time. >> i understand we're going to struggle the first couple of years and we didn't have a football team and that is getting them on the right football team and one of the reasons i i told our team, obviously, that is they believe in each other and that has to be your mind set and once you start winning the close games, you expect it. >> and starting to get into the potential. if the season ended today, they would be a four-seed opening up at home against the seahawks, better than being a five-seed and opening up in seattle and -- . >> it's been a long time, right? >> and th